11 Reasons I "Hate" the Disney Dining Plan

11 Reasons I "Hate" the Disney Dining Plan

by Dad
(The Office)

 

Can we talk? I'm not a fan of the Disney Dining Plan. I've said that a few times. So today I want to talk about the 11 Reasons I "Hate" the Disney Dining Plan.

Dad's Disney Dining Plan page

OK, maybe hate is a bad word, but I do think the Disney Dining Plan has been bad for Dining at Walt Disney World. But we'll get to that in a minute.

The new breakfast at the Magic Kingdom - Photo by Cliff Wang


Reason #11 - Refillable Mugs

Now before you go all crazy and says Dad hates the refillable mugs, let me explain. I love the refillable mugs. We get them all the time. I just don't like them in conjunction with the Disney Dining Plan. Here's why. Lets say you decide to eat a quick service breakfast at your resort (or any other meal for that matter). You want to pay using the Dining Plan. Fine. Guess what. If you use your refillable mug, instead of the included drink, you just lost money.

That's $3.50 or more that Disney just pocketed. If you use your mug you just threw that money away.

Reason #10 - Inconsistent application of the plan

When we took the grown kids a couple of years ago we had FREE Dining so we scheduled some meals that took 2 credits. One was Cinderella's Royal Table and one was Le Cellier. We went to Cindy's first. Great meal. Appetizer, entree, dessert and a drink just like advertised. No problem.

A couple of days later we went to Le Cellier. We told the waitress we were on the Dining Plan. Great what do you want for an entree? What about the appetizer. No, at Le Cellier, you don't get the appetizer. But, I said, the DDP says appetizer, entree, desert and drink. Nope, she said, not at Le Cellier. We are special.

We were so looking forward to the Cheddar Cheese Soup. We didn't get it. That was just the first of many problems with that meal. Just saying.

Dad's Le Cellier experience.

Reason #9 - Leftover Snacks

I was at the Pop Century in December paying for my breakfast (with cash, yes, Disney takes cash) when a family at the next register started making a big fuss. It was their last morning and they had 2 quick service credits left they hadn't planned on.

They started scrambling around grabbing candy and all kinds of junk. This is while people are waiting behind them to check out. The cashier started counting "snacks" and said they needed 2 more. Dad sent the kids to grab more junk.

Great use of the dining plan there. Disney loves people like you. You take a credit worth around $18 and turn it into $12 worth of junk food. Good job.

Reason #8 - Everyone says it's more convenient

Nope. Not at all. When you use the DDP, you end up paying with your MagicBand, right? When you don't use the DDP you pay with... wait for it... your credit card, cash or your MagicBand. It's still the same process unless you use cash which is easier and faster.

Oh, and that assumes that the computers are working at Disney. There have been a lot of breakdowns lately. Cash always works. Drop the cash and leave. No worrying about how may credits left. Did I "spend" my credits wisely, etc.

Reason #7 - The Deluxe Dining Plan

The Deluxe Dining Plan is crazy. No one can eat that much food, and if they can, they don't need to. I'm serious.

Pretty much all of my adult life I've been Pooh sized. I can eat a lot of food, but eating 3 table service meals per day is crazy. I made the mistake of scheduling Whispering Canyon Cafe for breakfast after 'Ohana for dinner. Way, way too much food. No one wanted breakfast (except the 15 year old Man-Child who could eat a horse at that age) and we all are big eaters.

Yes, you can use your credit at either Table or Quick Service Meals. Disney thanks you for using those credits for Quick Service meals. Trust me.

Reason #6 - I'd never eat at (insert expensive restaurant here) without the Dining Plan

The same day, the same time I was in line at Everything Pop with the family scrambling for snacks, a couple of guys were in front of me talking about eating at The Boathouse. One of them said to the other "I would never eat there if it wasn't on the Dining Plan."

Huh? I've heard that about several of the more expensive (2 Table Service Credits) restaurants.

Let's take a look at reality. At dinner at the Boathouse you can order a sandwich for $18. Even a Lobster Roll is just $29. Shoot, you can get an 8 oz. NY Steak and fries for $29.50 and Lobster for 2 for $60. And for that you "spend" 2 Table Service credits.

Compare that to dinner at Be Our Guest which is just 1 Table Service Credit. The Grilled Strip Steak is $35 and the cheapest entree is $21. Most of them are $28 or more and you can get that AMAZING French Onion Soup!

Yep, Disney loves it when you spend 2 Table Service credits at The Boathouse and, by the way, most of the other Signature Dining and 2 credit Table Service restaurants.

Reason #5 - Only way to do Character Dining

This is very much a corollary to Reason #6. Lots of people think they save money on Character Dining by using the Disney Dining Plan.

Maybe not.

Look at the Princess Storybook Dinner at Akershus. It's one of the favorite character meals at Walt Disney World. The price for dinner is around $50. (It varies during the holidays.)

Let's compare that Strip Steak at Be Our Guest at $35, $5 for the cupcake and $3.50 for the drink. That's (if my math is correct, and it usually is) $43.50.

But if you try Akershus at breakfast... You're talking around $35 per adult. For the same "credit" that is worth $43.50 at Be Our Guest (and no, that's not the most expensive restaurant I could have chosen.)

So, Character Dining is not automatically a better use of Dining Plan credits.

Reason #4 - The Dining Plan allows me to try new things

This one makes me laugh.

So you are going to try new restaurants or new foods just because you are on the Disney Dining Plan? OK.

Let's say you want to try the "exotic" menu at Skipper Canteen. It's kind of different. Really different.

You go to Skipper Canteen and find out you don't like it. In fact, you just can't eat it. (It's happened.) Now you have to go somewhere else and get food. (Casey's Corner is pretty cheap.) You've not only used your credit, you've had to pay for another meal.

Disney loves that.

Reason #3 - It's very wasteful

The Disney Dining Plan wastes food. Lots of it.

Mrs. Mom and I have done the Disney Dining Plan twice. Both times we had the same feeling. The DDP is too much food. We threw away a bunch.

The portions at most Disney World restaurants are big. In fact they are big enough for most adults to share. For example, Pizzafari. One "meal" is a pizza, a salad and a dessert. The pizza is big enough to share and with salad and dessert more than enough for two people.

The last time we ate at Pizzafari, we threw away half a pizza, a full salad and more than half of 2 desserts. We didn't need that much food but because we were on the DDP we had to use the credits.

If we were paying actual money we would have ordered less and wasted a lot less.

Reason #2 - The food quality at WDW has suffered

This is why I "hate" the Disney Dining Plan. Since the DDP started, the food quality at WDW has gone down hill. In some cases way down hill.

At almost every restaurant, food quality has suffered. Extras have gone away. Being able to order a la carte items has gone bye bye. All because all meals now have to fit in the DDP and restaurants don't get as much money per customer as they used too.

So they've had to economize, change menus, lower food costs, add really bad desserts, all because of the DDP. It's really, really sad.

Reason #1 - Most people don't save money

Yes, I know, a bunch of you are howling at me right now, but I firmly believe that most people who buy the Disney Dining Plan don't save money. They don't.

In fact, it's really hard to save money using the Disney Dining Plan. I know. I've tried. Back when Dad went on his big Palooza we actually paid for the Disney Dining Plan. We kept close track of the numbers and we "saved" a whopping $13.68.

BUT, we ended up with things we would have never ordered and really didn't want or eat (see the Pizzafari story above). And we had more Table Service meals than we normally would have. We "saved" $13.98 on paper, but we probably spent over $100 that we wouldn't have normally.

Over in this months' WDW Magazine there is an article about using the Disney Dining Plan. In it, the writer does a comparison of what she actually spent for food versus what she would have spent using the DDP. She saved $390.43 by NOT getting the DDP.

That's right for her family she saved almost $400. FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS!!!

(Check it out at WDW Magazine it's the Dining at WDW issue.)

PS. Dad can help you figure out if you'll save money using the DDP. I've created a little calculator where you can figure what you would spend versus what it would cost.

Dad's DDP Calculator page


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Dad's Bottom Line

For years, I've said I'm not a fan of the Disney Dining Plan. Now you know why. What do you think about the DDP? Like it? Hate it? Love it? Add a comment below and let us know.

 

 

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Jul 24, 2017
When you are bring friends its great
by: Anonymous

We have an only child and when we can, we like to bring a friend or two along. Having the dining plan makes paying for meals much easier and we can give the parents a set amount to pay and then don;t have to worry for the trip, Makes life easier.

Jul 10, 2017
My family values the dining plan
by: Anonymous

My husband and I saved almost $400 two months ago with Deluxe Dining Plan. We don't always purchase the deluxe dining plan, but we had a lot of signature and character meals scheduled. We know what places aren't worth two credits (Boathouse). If you're smart enough to use the dining plan correctly, it will almost always save you money and give the peace of mind that it is paid upfront. Also, the standard dining plan doesn't include appetizers. So unless you upgraded to deluxe dining the time you had free dining, appetizers aren't included. Cinderella's Royal Table is an exception because it's part of the high fixed price signature meal.

Jul 09, 2017
Paid for before I leave (or free)
by: Donna

I love knowing everything is paid for before I go. That being said we look at menus we know what we want in advance. And if it going to save us money or not. This last we took, all we took into account was the table service meals. We forgot to consider that even counter service meals for what is essentially 4 adults at this point can cost $15-$20 per person. And now that the plan will include alcohol and specialty drinks the plan is even more worth it to me. Just my 2 ยข.

Jul 09, 2017
It's not the dining plan....
by: Jeff

..... it's how you are using it.

Jun 30, 2017
Flexibility
by: David

Just got back, didn't have the plan. Did we save money? Who knows!

Yes, I have all of my charges, and I suppose I could compare to the DDP prices. But would we have had that wonderful "multiple appetizer, no entree" dinner? Would we have dined at Disney Springs at a non-participating establishment? And of course that fireworks event, that would not have been covered either. Our 11 year old frequently (not always) ordered from the kids menu. She'd be an adult on the DDP.

We'd also have to back out "extra" bar drinks to properly compare. Speaking of which, how many sugary carbonated beverages did we avoid by not having those refillable mugs? Tough to tell. The kids consumed a few "shirley temples" over the week, but I imagine not nearly as many as if we'd had the mugs. Which we'd then need to clean.

I don't know, I didn't want dining to feel like an accounting exercise. To the extent that it's possible at Disney, we ate where we wanted, when we wanted. If it means we didn't max out our possible savings? I don't care, if I wanted to save money I'd go to the local KOA, not Disney!

Jun 26, 2017
Too Much Food
by: Lori

Myself and two teenage kids went during "free dining". The servings were so huge, we threw away so much food! I passed on the free dining for our upcoming trip - we'll all share.

Apr 25, 2017
Amen!
by: Anonymous

I looked into the DDP once. Once. It was several years ago, and I compared what we actually spent vs. what we would have spent on the DDP, and the DDP would have cost us more money. Plus, it's gotten more and more difficult to get table service dining reservations (probably because of DDP), that I would hate to buy the DDP and then just be frustrated by trying to use them. I generally love the dining options at WDW, but "No thanks" to the DDP.

Apr 19, 2017
We saved by NOT getting the dining plan
by: Emmett

On our last trip we used a Travel Agent for the first time. After we arrived we learned that she forgot to order the dining plan and the price was refunded to our card. We had saved for the trip and had a cushion, so we took a leap and just ordered what we wanted when we wanted it. This included this like wine flights and other items not covered by the dining plan offered at the Food & Wine Festival. After eating way more than we should have AND counting the Sand Castle Club and souvenirs, we had $83 of our "Dining Plan" money left.

Apr 15, 2017
I don't get it.
by: Anonymous

I do not get it when folks say the " convenience" of not having to budget for meals makes it all worthwhile. That their budget conscience spouse would worry about cost if they did not use it. Any budget conscience person would never use it if they actually looked at the costs and totaled the tips.

If these people took the cost of the dining plan and placed that money in an account before their trip, they would still have the convenience but much less cost. I think people don't ever put the tips they pay into the final cost of their dining. I wonder how many actually tip fairly.

People traveling with multiple children under 3 may make out when eating character meals 2x a day , on a short trip.

Since Disney has not asked for birth certificates yet, many persons do post that they list older children who look small, as under three.

Biggest thing is that people stress while planning n how will they get the biggest bang to make it worthwhile. They need a vacation after the stressful months of trying to get dining reservations at certain places.

Apr 14, 2017
Agree and disagree
by: Anonymous

I agree with several of those points. The DDP rarely saves anyone money. However I think you miss an important point. The convenience factor isn't just a matter of how you hand over the cash, there is also the matter of budgeting.

Since we generally have a finite amount of money to spend, and if not why would we bother giving this any thought. So paying per meal instead of using credits means budgeting. We have to figure out before we go how much money we need per meal and make that amount available.

We have to research menus and figure out where we get the most bang for our buck which is not going to be a simple matter when one member of the family could do better at restaurant A while another member would at restaurant B. Then you have to do further budgeting at the individual restaurants because what sounded good when you looked at the menu 2 months ago may not be what you are in the mood for. This can be a real problem.

My husband would worry about overspending at individual restaurants and order cheaper items in order to make sure the rest of the family gets what they want later in the week, even if it wasn't what sounds best or is filling. That dampers things a bit.

So convenience can go far beyond handing over cash vs scanning the band, it can be about doing the math, more intensive research, piece of mind, and not settling. The dining plan, like everything Disney does is about making money, that doesn't make it inherently bad, nor does my neurotic husband's piece of mind make it inherently good. It does make the question a complex one.

Apr 13, 2017
Disagree on one point
by: Anonymous

One thing I disagree with you on is that when you use refillable mugs at your resort with your meal, you really are not losing money on it. You can still get a drink for later. We have gotten either a Coke (or some other type of soft drink) or a bottle of water as the drink with our meal and also used our refillable mug to drink with our meal.

Mar 27, 2017
It Ain't What It Used to Be
by: Anonymous

The DDP introduced our family to a variety of restaurants that we would never have tried if we were paying out of pocket. We would have continued taking our packed lunches into the parks and perhaps splurging on a quick service meal if not for the DDP. In addition, we learned that the dining experience at Disney could be just as enjoyable as the rides.

Many times we have been grateful to have our own little corner of Disney (a table at a full-service restaurant)when it was hot or crowded in the parks. The DDP use to be a fairly good deal. When our boys were young, our family of 5 was able to go to Disney for an entire week (6-7 nights), stay at Port Orleans Riverside, and enjoy the DDP for under $3,000.

The last time we enjoyed "free dining" was October 2015. We spent 5 nights squeezed into tiny little rooms at Pop Century (we had to put one of the kids in a room with grandparents). In order to get "free dining", we had to book preferred hotel rooms, buy park hoppers (which we didn't use), and upgrade our dining plan from 2 counter service meals per day (which is what you got when staying at a value resort) to 1 counter service and 1 full service restaurant (because rooms at the moderate resort sold out before we could book them).

What did we pay for such fun? Over $4,000! We've had to accept that the days when we could go for an entire week and enjoy a variety of interesting foods and restaurant settings is gone. Disney has gotten greedy. Even if we stayed off property, ticket prices are climbing higher and higher every year. I'm having to give long, hard thought to spending such an extravagant sum of money for less than a week's vacation.

Mar 21, 2017
I totally agree.
by: DisneyMimi

While we have never used the DDP, my husband and I are not big eaters. Most of the time we will split a quick service meal, so even the quick service plan is too much for us.

We rarely do table service meals. Of the few times we do, it is only one during our visit.

Plus the "Free Dining" is not completely free. I calculated a trip with the free dining and without, (the only difference being the dining) and there was a definite price difference. If it was truly "free", there would have been no difference in price. They do charge you for at least a portion of the normal Dining plan cost.

We will never use the dining plan because it is not worth it for us, even taking my daughter and granddaughter.

Mar 20, 2017
This is going to sound like blasphemy...
by: Cheapskate

I have been a huge Disney World fan for 40+ years and have been more than 25 times. We have 2 kids and bring grandma, too, when we visit. We stay off site at a development like Windsor Hills - 3 bedroom condo for about $70 a night - about a 5 minute drive away.

We do this to save money and so that kids can go to bed earlier than adults. It also allows to go shopping and fill up the full-size fridge with food for lunches.

Yes, here's the blasphemy. We bring our lunches into the parks in a soft-sided cooler and when we get hungry we find a cool spot and we start eating. No lines, no hassles, and tons of savings. You can freeze water bottles or cokes (quickly turns into slushies by lunch on a hot day) to keep the food cool.

I, too, have noticed the food quality at Disney parks has suffered from what I remember in the 70s and 80s. We only partake a time or two during a week trip and that's about all I can stand.

Just wanted to throw out an alternative since it seems like no one ever speaks to this method...

Mar 10, 2017
Calculators are flawed
by: Anonymous

The price of the DDP includes tax. Your calculator does not reflect tax on the price of a meal. So the comparison is skewed.

Mar 10, 2017
We love the DDP (when it's free)
by: Lottie

Coming from the UK, it's great knowing that when we leave the house (usually on a cold and wet day) to go to the airport, we have our dining covered.

We have paid out of pocket on 8 of our trips and used the dining plan twice (both times when it has been offered for free). For us the difference the dining plan makes is that we can order what we want without considering the cost. Frankly, even if I had a lot of money, I would always look at the prices before considering opting for a $61 steak. The dining plan gives people financial freedom. I remember as a child my parents saved hard to take us to Disney (before the dining plan) and they had a budget for our daily spends...the dining plan covers (pretty much) everything on the menu, so if your child wants the most expensive drink, entree and dessert...ok! I can imagine, those on a strict budget would avoid the more expensive dining options, that the dining plan would open up for them.

The introduction of a second snack and the removal of the QS dessert has made me a happy girl! I hated most of the desserts and felt terrible wasting them. This way the additional snack can be used on a much needed Starbucks or an extra trip to the confectionary on main st.

So all in all, I like the dining plan. I can understand why people use it and find it to be more convenient. Totally get that you probably don't spend as much money when paying out of pocket because you'd definitely eat less. That being said...I think it's biggest appeal is the financial freedom, once you have it...you don't have to worry about the cost of what you're ordering (except to cover the tips)

Mar 08, 2017
Rebuttal
by: Anonymous

You're an idiot

Mar 07, 2017
Reasons I "Love" the Disney Dining Plan
by: Amber

Your article seemed very negatively skewed and I felt the need to respond. Our family loves the dining plan, and can honestly say having gone to disney without it as well that it saves us money and is more convenient. Our next trip we will have 2 adults, an 11, 9, and 2 yr old, and a four month old.

We love character dining and do a lot of buffet meals and we find the dining plan ideal for this. Now to use it most effectively you do have to exercise common sense....don't waste snack credits on water or candy, don't order a kids meal with your quick service credits when you can get twice as much food, always ask for a large drink, and don't waste two credits on a meal.

And yes, sometimes we pay cash for a character breakfast and use those credits for eating at the Rainforest Cafe for dinner which costs twice as much. But it works for us...and I can honestly say I've never seen anyone check out at a resort quick service restaurant with just their mug without the cashier sending them back to get a drink out of the cooler as well since they are paying for it on the meal plan.

And I don't know where you're eating because even when my kids order an adult quick service meal there are no leftovers to throw out. And if we do have a leftover dessert which we always order in a to go container, we save it for later or my daughter likes to give it to someone who didn't get an awesome disney dessert and spread a little pixie dust....not throw it away.

I'm not sure why the plan doesn't work for you, but I don't think you should be discouraging others from it so vehemently.

Mar 07, 2017
we like the dining plan
by: Anonymous

The biggest reason we like the dining plan is because it allows us to go to a character breakfast every morning. My granddaughter loves seeing all the characters without having to stand inline and wait for them. Its all part of the magic of being at Disney. We really do enjoy our sit-down dining as well looking forward to the yummy desserts :)

Mar 06, 2017
convience is worth the price
by: Ron

My in-laws have taken my family and bro-in-law's family 2 times to WDW. I recommended the DDP (1 table, 1 quick, 1 snack). My MIL was adamant against it b/c her parents never used it.

I was for it because:
a. convenience. they were paying for the entire trip. so if we got separated, we had our credits (primarily snacks)
b. selfish reasons. when they take us out to eat, we drink water, no deserts, and are very conscientious of price. By using the DDP, we get non-water drinks, deserts, and pretty much anything on the menu. All without my in-laws having to worry about pricing. "its already paid for" (except the tip)

While it may not be a good fit for everyone, in my opinion, the convenience/all-inclusiveness factor is more than worth it. Each Disney customer needs to weigh the pros/cons of the DDP.

Mar 05, 2017
Disney Dining Plan
by: Anonymous

I usually get the 1 table service and 1 cafeteria service and 1 snack plan. It usually works fairly well until someone orders OATMEAL at the cafeteria for breakfast AND then a breakfast platter. Disney Charges a full meal for a bowl of oatmeal - not a snack as some may consider. So come the end of the trip when someone in the group gets oatmeal and a breakfast platter - Boom by day 3 of a 5 day plan you find out the bad news. Then they have you!Its too late. So run to the debit machine or pull out the credit card - you're going to need it even though you budgeted so you wouldn't.

Mar 05, 2017
Love the Dining Plan
by: Anonymous

My family likes to eat at the restaurants while we are at Disney and that's why I do it. I agree that you can save some money by not getting the DDP but you are going to eat anyway. I like to plan when they have it so can we stay at a different resort and not worry about paying for food. It's kind of a trade off for us to be able to stay in a nicer resort. I also admit that I could go off property and save a little too but that takes away from park time. I have done it both ways in the past and I like the dining plan much better.

Mar 04, 2017
I can well believe it
by: Anonymous

Our first trip to Disney world on the dining plan (standard) we had appetisers and gratuities included. No mug!

Since then it's changed and morphed into its present state, I've read many blogs which show how to use it to the best, and how it's not really worth it, and on balance I can quite believe it. But as yet we have not tried it out to see for ourselves, and the reason is like another post said is, at the end of the day for us coming from the U.K. for 2 weeks it's easy to pay up front before we come, so we only need spending money, no maxed credit cards on return and don't for get we have exchange rates when using our cards!.

This November is going to be our last trip for awhile as insurance for me is going to be Help! So maybe I won't get the chance to try out that old system PAYG. If we do get to come back say 3 years on I might have a go at convincing my husband to give it a go

Mar 04, 2017
Totally Agree
by: Anonymous

I totally agree with everything you said!! My family of 4 (2 adults/2 teens) usually stay for 8 nights. The dining plan would cost us over $2200. We pay out of pocket and usually spent between $1200-$1400. And we eat wherever we want, including a table service meal each day, and never go hungry! So, obviously the dining plan is not for us. It was at one time - when the kids were both under 10, and when the appetizer, meal, dessert, drink, and tip were included. Many years ago!
To have the "convenience" of having it prepaid I just pick up $1500 in Disney Gift Cards before we go, and I always end up with leftover money on them!

Mar 04, 2017
Agee/disagree
by: Geoff

The thing I like most is knowing everything is paid in advance and not trying to budget meals for a week or more. You are correct with what you said, but knowing that when you leave home the money you have budgeted as "spending money" is for extras and souvenirs, not for meals.

Mar 04, 2017
Suggestions to improve the dining plan
by: sandy

Just a comment.. I have not been to Disney in 2 years.. I chose and enjoyed the Deluxe Dining plan Points to ponder.

1. Who says anyone needs to order unhealthy meals or snacks? Salad plates with fresh fruit or yogurt, fish, cheese plates... You get the drift.. is expensive outside of theme parks so is eating fresh which is costly at home on a food budget. Especially gluten free. Traveling out of the park to eat is also expensive.. consider the parking fees, gas and time ordering and delivery is not cheap either. In order to evaluate costs you must consider that transportation to other food options out side the park is also an expense as is a rental car. Food at Disney if you have no car is your best choice and Disney is well aware.

The restaurants in the park are also an excitement to all this is why everyone spends hours on where to eat... So be real. Food, Quality, and options are important to numerous customers.. Many bloggers sell books, promote plans, follow pintrest, report on the many offerings and make food a big portion of the Disney planning experience.
Invite or challenge Disney to fix the program to make it work.

2. Portions are key.. Yes a lot of food is provided... You are not obligated to eat it all. But you have the ability to try new things order different plates within your group and share, a plus to me. I was able to try sushi for the first time and enjoyed it my husband did not and would not order it again. I had an opportunity to try African food that I enjoyed but might not have tried.

If the program provided to little to eat for growing teenagers and bigger eaters that would be a disappointment also..to some.

3. As an adult traveler sans children I enjoy the evening signature dining and welcome a relaxing meal before evening festivities. My husband is disabled and has to sit down at intervals.. So for us this resting option works.

4. Disney does not like input (suggestions) from "visitors" I attempted to suggest some user friendly changes to the program in the past that would alleviate some of the complaints I have observed and was told politely that Disney does not welcome input from outside sources because they do not want to give credit to outsiders.. That was a silly response but I received the letter in writing.

5. If enough people send you their comments on what they would like to see fixed in the program from the least expensive option to the finer dining option you, being a well known and established and important blogger (to me ) anyway.. might be able to get the Big Wigs at Disney to listen... forward them a report with input from customers.

6. Complaints make programs disappear... But suggestions for positive changes could make a mediocre program much better.

7. I understand most people travel with children.. My husband and I regrettably do not have children nor family but we are huge Disney fans and go when ever we can. I visit Disney on a regular basis in addition to being an active member of most of your site offerings and follow you on a regular basis. I am a Dad follower and supporter.

8. Health issues require better food choices for both Children and adults. Sweets should not be an only option offered for snacks .. Especially for the many Diabetics that are out there.. Sugar free baked items are expensive everywhere. Diabetics are better with protein offerings so maybe a snack could be a cup of soup, vegetable or chicken... celery and a protein or small amounts of protein in place of baked goods... Jerky, cheese sticks ect.. even a snack portions of unique foods in Epcot... like the food festival.... How many people use the snack points to sample offerings in October.. I know I did We ate our way around Epcot and had a great time. There is so many creative ways to make the dining plan great and user friendly.

I have several suggestions for improvements as I would suspect you and many others might have also to make the established dining program a success as opposed to a rant in addition to offering new ideas. For example, one would be a Princess/ Pirate Package. two an adult package, three a family package. ect...

Points program to use at your discretion We all figure out where we would like to eat and how? so why not buy points required for your family. So you could make your own option based upon your eating choices and needs. This would alleviate wasted food...Mix quick picks and signature options and 2 signature dining options each having a points value.. Now that would create a need to plan.. Good for Bloggers increasing more jobs also mix and match the points to coincide with your dining options.

Dining at Epcot to try food around the world. I have a multitude of ideas.
Adding 1 glass of wine at diner with an appetizer for adults especially at Epcot in conjunction with the food show in October.

Offering small tapas plates as a snack ie. fried rice, Swedish meat ball, falafel, small salad or fruit cup a yogurt parfait, soup ect.. Why can't a snack be a small portion of food... That would help diabetics who shouldn't choose sweets.

Better sugar free options... right now, they are not good or tasty and are expensive everywhere not just at a theme park. Including specialty drinks such as a health smoothie perhaps a higher coffee or tea option.

Up the quality of food and offer more healthy choices but make the amounts and usage more friendly... still cost effective. Reminder, the restaurants do not work for Disney they are vendors also.

another example, look at the response for the Grand Floridian... That 5 star dining option might not appeal to some however the restaurant has a great rating and is consistently booked...an adult experience.

Bring back the Appetizer option and maybe offer an appetizer or a happy ending not both. I would rather have an appetizer and not the sweet. or one person gets and shares an app and the other orders a happy ending to share.

These are just some examples... Disney wants to appeal to all especially tweens and adults look at the upscale Disney springs.. Cheap bad food and pricey merchandise do not reasonably go hand and hand... if you want to have quality and a good reason for people to eat at the park and Disney Springs. Don't loose sight of quality. This is what Disney is noted for. Quality. Lack of quality would bring down the brand Disney has established through the years.

Maybe you would consider having a "Let's fix" the dining program Blog... That would get everyone forwarding you suggestions to present by us to Disney.. Have a vote after all information is gathered to present the best of the ideas.. That would promote major Blog participation.

just a thought.

Ok, Thanks for listening.

Sandy

Mar 03, 2017
Saved 50%
by: Anonymous

I priced the standard dining plan for our family of 5. Instead, we ordered groceries from Garden grocer and packed some things in our suitcase. We ate quick breakfasts in our hotel, packed lunches for days in the park and kept dinners we paid for pretty simple. This saved us 50% and we ate much healthier!

Mar 03, 2017
Don't forget the tips
by: Anonymous

I often wonder if people realize how much extra the tips are when they are trying to maximize the DDP.
They are getting desserts they normally would not buy and then paying a tip on them and then throwing them out?
I am not a fan of character meals every day. The dining is not relaxing as your family is up and down for food at different times and then jumping up for photos or taking the photo. Does Mom get to eat?

Mar 03, 2017
Split meals
by: Anonymous

When my family went, we split the lunch meals with our kids and there was more than enough food without feeling too full. It's hard to keep going all day when you are stuffed.

Mar 03, 2017
DDP vs TIW
by: Anonymous

You can save money if you do your research and plan for the Disney Dining plan. Last March for Spring Break we got the DDP - we saved $120.73 over the cash prices. We know this because we made no mention of the DDP until we had the receipt in hand and could track the amount we would have spent. I agree the amount of food is too much even for big eaters. My biggest complaint is too much sweets (desserts and available snacks) and I love sweets & never thought I'd see the day I said I had too much.

Now I also tracked the places that would have taken the Tables in Wonderland discount. If we had opted to use that instead. TIW would have saved us $127.70 in total.

By using the DDP we went to 4 more pricey dinners out of the 7 we had available. If we were paying with cash, I know we would have opted for a quick service over these table service much more often.

You can save -- but you really have to work at it to save.

Mar 03, 2017
Dinning plan, deluxe
by: Anonymous

Our first time we got the deluxe dinning plan and we lost time waiting for a table, instead of looking all, buying, attractions,finally we lost the Epcot Center Fireworks! We are waiting to dinner, and the dinner was not a miracle, the restaurant service regular but food horrible, I do not want to say the name..

Mar 03, 2017
Agree 100 %
by: Anonymous

The Dining plan has way too much food to offer and when you have it you are limited to what you can order! We only go when it is FREE!!! But is it really? Who knows? But we love to go where we want to eat and that is the bottom line!

Mar 03, 2017
agreed
by: Anonymous

dad: I couldn't agree more. we did the dining plan the first two times we went and tried to maximize the value, but we ended up wasting lots of food. we would of never ordered dessert every meal if we were paying out of pocket. plus: the wife and daughter never eat $60+ of food each day which is needed to break even on the cost

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